[Theresonly1]

Fair point bubba.

But with the current speed of the technology trend anything can happen, who knows what the demand is in a few yrs time. I am building this computer with some insight into the future, i dont want a system thats good for now but not later on yrs when who knows what's available especially with Windows 7 coming out soon. I want a good system for now + for future aswell with ease of upgradability - yeah i soumd a bit greedy as i want everything perfect can't help it

It looks like everything is getting bigger these days, even many software programs require much much more memory space to operate.

Also wan't Quad instead of duo because its a step up, we all wan't to step up! Plus i guess Quad will aid effiiciency in multitasking. Duo may not be enough good when Win 7 comes.

So yeah, i'm looking for the future, although 8GB really i dont use it all up but who knows and i might jump shift into video editing somepoint. I would n't know like as you said... you didn't expect to do editing videos until recently.

[Carbon]

you can't do that. by "the future" what you have will be outdated one way or another. don't buy for "the future", buy for now.

[Fordy]

The higher spec components you buy the quicker they will outdate.

Seriously buy something decent that'll do for now and a few years, whatever you buy it won't last more than 2/3 years realisticly.

[Bubba]

Dude, if you have the money to waste, buy what you want lol. I "met" Carbon month's after I built my computer. I wish I had "met" him sooner, my computer is SO overkill it's not funny. Hell, I bought TWO nVidia 9800Gx2's the day they were released at $600 (US) apiece. I need two of those like I need another hole in my head lol. But I have them and I can't take them back. RAM you can always add later.

Get a nice Mobo that will handle a quad core and then get a dirt cheap 8400 duo (I think that's the processor Carbon recommends). If you need more in the future, you can always buy it when the price goes down. I WANTED 1600 or 2000 MhZ Ram (ddr3). I got 1333, because of the price. It now costs less than half what I paid for it. I WANT a QX9770 but that costs around $1500. My computer was pretty close to top of the line when I built it, and it has room to be upgraded.

The bottom line is though, get what YOU want and what you can afford. We ALL have to over spend/over build once lol. I got tired of buying a computer and it being outdated in 6 month's. Of course then I was BUYING, not BUILDING.

As for Windows7? I actually SAW with my own eyes, a guy running Windows7 on a P4 chip. I forget which chip it was, but it was a less than a 3GB chip and he has it UNDERCLOCKED to 1.7 GB's. Granted, he's not gaming on it but still............

Again, get what makes you happy and you can afford. Only YOU can decide if it's worth it. WE can only pass on our experiences lol. Bottom line? I am a hard head. I would have NEVER believed I over built until I over built and saw I over built. I also trust Carbon implicitly. He just passes on his knowledge free of charge, he has no dog inthe fight as it were lol.

[Theresonly1]

Yes exactly what i'm trying to convey.

In terms of money, yep i do have a lot of money of waste but that doesn't mean im going mad in spending on junk, thats why i want as much information from you experts as possible

I am not wanting to build computers that last 10 yrs or something because i know that's impossible, just exactly 2-3 yrs is enough and hopefully the system will be upgradable in the future.
Just because previous yrs i have bought systems that can't even last a single yr - 6 months on its crap and useless and slow etc.

[Bubba]

Well then Bro, there you go. You won't be happy until you build what you want and if it's not gonna have you digging out of McDonald's dumpsters for food then I say go for it. You will enjoy building it, you will learn, and the next time you build you will know better what to build. LOL if you are like me the NEXT time you want to build will be about 3 days after you get that one going.

Have fun and let us know how it goes.

[Theresonly1]

Cheers,

But before i carry on, i want to go back to the issue some of you guys mentioned earlier. Some of you said that; the higher the spec will be outdated quicker so its best to build something that's good for now.. -- Surely that doesn't make sense or how would it?

Again, i was thinking back to 2 yrs ago in a scenario which i brought my system back then consisting of core 2 duo with only 1GB of RAM for Vista, at that time that system spec was *very* good for that time but seriously nowadays that kind of spec can't even allow you to simply walk. Therefore that has gone outdated in a space of 2 yrs. But 2 yrs ago, a 4GB ram system was like "thats maximum quality" compared to now seeing 8GB ram with Quad as the perfect solution (exactly the same idea)!!! If i was smart back then, i would of acquired the 4GB option & i wouldnt be stuck in this stupid situation at this moment because 4GB would definitely be as good now for another 2 yrs or so in addition to the 2 yrs i had it, so in other words if i had took up the 4GB option 2 yrs ago - it would last me round about 4-5 yrs!

Hence i can't see the point of the higher the spec will be outdated soon...

[Fordy]

What I meant by that was if you have the following attitude towards it:

"I really must have a top spec PC all the time, I want all my components to be the best available."

Then the best available changes very quickly, as it only needs one component to be released that outperforms it.

Where as if you say "Na, I want a good spec PC but nothing out of this world" Then it will stay good-but-not-out-of-thid-world longer than a best possible will stay the best possible.

[Theresonly1]

True

Sorry, probably miss interpreted what you originally said.

Well i guess that's me now, gained enough information from you guys and proceed onto the next step that is to actually deciding on how to build it. Any good tips or good articles that can assist me?

Infact. Probably will ask in a new thread if i need help.

[Bubba]

Wow theresonly1.......... If I understand you correctly........

You got a computer 2 years ago with a duo core processor and 1 GB of RAM. I have to assume you BOUGHT the computer, not built it. Or if you built it you did not build it to be upgradable.

If you bought it, I feel your pain. I bought (actually my wife bought for me) a 3.8 GB P4 system about 15 minutes before they came out with the Duo Cores lol. Of course being a bought computer and more specifically a Dell, I was limited on what and how much I could upgrade it. Obviously I couldn't upgrade to a Duo core processor with the Mobo Dell put in there and I am limited on the amount of RAM I can use but the truth be told?

If I wasn't gaming or editing Video's that "old" computer would be just fine. Hell, I still have it and still use it. I'm 46 for gosh sakes, I shouldn't be building a computer to play games on lol. But I did and I am. What Carbon and Fordy were saying is that you can't predict what the latest "breakthrough" will be. Heck, Intel has no real competition, they they are basically competing with themselves. As such, they release what they release when they think there is a market for it, not when their technology is "new." If it's your first build, I say go with the most you can afford. I already said that lol.

Can't wait to hear what you bought and how the build turns out. Definately post a thread when you build it. I look forward to it.