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7th Aug 2009, 19:52
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Hi, this thread is mainly to Carbon but if anyone else can help that's okay.
Carbon I don't know if you know this, but your kinda popular in game forum's around the net *AKA Aion*, a lot of people including my friends recommended me to ask you about building my own computer, so here I am needing your godly wisdom.  Okay so here is the deal, I have a 1,500$ budget, I might push it to 1,800$ if it's really worth it. I'm planning to build my own computer and I have one week to do that. I am a hardcore gamer so of course I'm gonna get HD 4890 on crossfire without a question, but I also use modeling program's such as 3D's max, not as a career yet, just for college and stuff so I'm not professional in that yet, just a fyi. About my taste? I would prefer AMD and ATI: 1) ATI is atleast 50% cheaper than NVIDIA, and I read some reviews that ATI's card's are better than NVIDIA's individually. 2) I use to use Intel processor, until I seen a 3.2Ghz AMD processor that's 70% cheaper than Intel's. Okay so if you could kindly help me build my computer, I will be the most grateful gamer on earth, and of course I'll spread your godly wisdom among my friends right.  So here are the spec's I need you to help me build. Case: *I'm not good with cases, so I can't tell which is good or not, but if it's possible I would like a cool looking case with a blue glow, I always dreamed of having one but most of the time good looks = shit performance to attract people, but if you can find a good looking case that would be perfect.* Processor: *Definately a AMD Phenom ii x4 Black Edition, but their sold out on newegg for about a month now, I wish they would restock.* Cooling Fan: *Up to you. =P* Motherboard: *Anything that will support triple or even quad crossfire.* Memory: *DDR3 unless you can convince me DDR2 somehow, but definately atleast 4G.* Power Supply: *Up to you, but I plan on using 2 Monitors, crossfire, 3D's Max on one monitor, Aion on the other, so I don't know how much watt's I need.* Graphic Card: * 2x 4890 of course, unless their is a better deal or result* Hard Drive: * Up to you, I think 1TB should be enough* Optical Drive: *Up to you, I would prefer Blue-Ray but it will most likely not fit in my budget, so whatever fits best.* Flash Media Reader/Writer: *I don't know if this is required on a average computer, just saw that on the net so up to you.* Sound Card: *Up to you.* Speakers: *Up to you.* Keyboard: *Keyboards are more preference, so I'll go with a Logitech Wave, unless you think their's something better.* Mouse: *Logitech MX518.* Monitor: *I will probobly start with one monitor for now cause of my budget, and get a second one in the feature, anything 24" in or higher is fine by me.* Operating System: *I don't know if I should get one or use Window's 7 Beta, if my budget is enough you can choose one, if it's not then it's okay I'll use Windows 7 Beta.* I'm sorry for the long essay I wrote, I hope I'm not bothering/anoying you in any way, I just needed help from this wise person my friends talk about in Aion, cheers!! P.S: *I would like most of my parts to be from newegg, but if you know a better site that's fine by me, and if you could notify me what product's I should look out for in the feature to upgrade my computer or make it better that would be awesome!* |
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7th Aug 2009, 22:01
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I'm glad the word's being spread around. There's a lot of disinformation that plagues even good sites like Anandtech (although them and TR do an okay job), much less the rest of the internet.
Most of your specific questions (DDR3 vs DDR2, Crossfire etc) are answered here, I think? Anyway some of those builds in that guide are a little out of date. How's this look? Combo deal: CPU/graphics card (basically what I'd normally recommend but much cheaper with v. nice aftermarket cooler on the GPU and $25 discount) CPU: Phenom II X4 945 - this is the newer 95W binned edition, so it'll have lower heat and power at the same performance as the old 945.Now stuff not in the combo... Motherboard: GA-MA790XT-UD4P - nice motherboard all around. There's a version with two full x16 slots instead of x16/x8, but even if you did Crossfire, there is essentially no difference between the two speeds in independent benchmarks and it's $50 more. Note here the last graph - between P45, which is x16/x8, and X8 which is x16/x16, the difference is statistically insignificant. Otherwise, this board is based on GB's excellent Ultra Durable series, and it's a great general pick. Memory: This G. Skill set of 4GB DDR3-1333 is tighter timings than the Corsair equivalent for $10 less. While usually for budget builds DDR2 is the best option, here it's not too much more expensive and it may be useful if you upgrade later. You could get two sets of this if you wanted, too. HSF: Coolermaster V8. While this isn't too much more effective than other HDT coolers, a lot of them have weird issues with AM3 where they can only be mounted a certain way. It also looks pretty neat. HDD: 1TB Black. Fast, cool, high capacity. Optical: LG Black 6X BD-ROM. Blu-ray wooooooo. Burns every format ever made at good speeds. Sound card and speakers: ASUS Xonar 7.1. This is a tough one. Sound quality wise you're going to get more for your money from headphones. If you have to have speakers, you could get the Z-2300s, but they have mediocre to poor performance for music (decent for games though). I would recommend a sound card if you're going to get anything decent though so that's why the Xonar's up there. KB/Mouse: Good calls on both, MX518 is a great mouse too. Monitor: ASUS VW246H. Good res, good quality, excellent reviews, affordable if you want to buy another one later. It's also on sale $20 off for two days. OS: I would just use Win7 RC1 for now. It really sucks to use Vista in comparison. Case & PSU: Only up to $1,043 so far. Oh boy! I know you want something flashy. People always do. But you're right - flashy cases tend to suck when it comes to actually have anything to help you build and manage cables. Besides, you can always buy a not very flashy case and replace the fans with LED fans if you want to. I guarantee you you'll tire of them after a while though. Anyway, I think this is the best option: Antec P183 and CP-850 The case is fantastic. Cable management, nice bays, very clean inside and out, won't cut your hand open when working in it like a lot of cases. The PSU even more so. It is probably one of the best if not the best consumer PSU on the market right now. It is insanely good. It's also really really cheap for what you're getting and it's modular too. So I think that's it? To recap: CPU/GPU - Phenom II X4 955 + Radeon 4890 Cyclone ($355)
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8th Aug 2009, 13:40
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Thank you!..
I think this computer should last a few descent years without upgrading. I'm ordering all the part's tonight or tomorrow morning, do you know how long it takes newegg to ship parts to Texas? And will all the parts be shipped from my cart at once or individually? By the way I never build a computer before, is it as simple as logos or will it be a challenge for a first timer? I don't know if it matters in what part of the case I install the power supply, motherboard etc. If it's possible a guide on how to build a computer would be really nice if you know any. Thanks again Carbon you helped me a lot!
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8th Aug 2009, 16:20
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They should show up as a group, though sometimes multiple groups, it's usually well under a week.
Try this as a guide to putting it together. You shouldn't have any problems. Just remember some of the common pitfalls: make sure to put standoffs between the screws holding down the motherboard and the case (don't screw it directly into the motherboard), make sure that all your motherboard power hookups are plugged in (24-pin ATX, 4/8 pin CPU), stuff like that. If you have any questions just ask.
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13th Aug 2009, 20:01
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Actually I have one more question.
After I build my computer, how do I download windows 7? I mean will I be able to use the internet without a operating system and download windows 7? I have some empty discs I could probably burn windows 7 on, but the memory capacity on the discs are low. So any advice on how to solve this would be awesome! =) |
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13th Aug 2009, 20:07
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You need an OS to use the Internet, so download it prior (assuming it's available legally?) or on another machine and burn it. You'll need a DVD and DVD burner.
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13th Aug 2009, 20:15
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13th Aug 2009, 22:09
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13th Aug 2009, 22:24
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According to Windows, 3.04 GB.
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18th Aug 2009, 13:28
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Okay I got all my parts, but I'm having trouble building the computer even with your guide.
1. I don't know where all the Power Supply connectors go, I try to read the labels to see what connector goes where but no luck. 2. I don't know how to install the V8 heat sink & fan. 3. I'm having issue's installing the hard drive and optical drive too :/. Got any better guides with more detail? |
