[alex]

Jameslee, whats your budget for a gaming pc?

Don't forget you'll need to add the cost of an o.s onto this as the builder of said pc didn't quote one included in the price.

Do you need screen/keyboard/speakers?

What games will you be playing?

I'll happily have a look, should you want to go the build route, for components that will give you a good, balanced gaming spec. Least this way you'll be able to spec the exact components that go into the build.

And you're right, taking the time and effort with a build can make it easy. You've just got to have a little patience. And when your first build is all said and done its a good feeling knowing you spec'd it, you built it and it does what you want.

[jameslee07]

Would anybody have any good places to build a computer like that/better for about the same price

[alex]

see my post above.

[BrucieBonus]

Alex i dont thing you understood my post. I never said it was ok to con people. I just dont see a major problem with what he is doing regarding his build.

Firstly, he clearly states the components.
He makes you aware of the price.

Now i dont know as much about pcs as you, but from a business perspective he is well within his rights.

Why should he be responsible for people who think the be all and end all of Graphics cards is how many MB it is? As a pc builder he has the rights to put any parts into a pc as long as its compatable and works.

I would take issue if he made promises about performance which the pc couldnt achieve. However as far as i can see he dosent do this. I recognise as a hardcore computer enthusiast that you might take issue with machices that dont operate as well as they could, because a substandard part was used, However you have to remember he isnt responsible for the knowledge of the people buying the pc and as long as he lists the parts used correctly and produces a working computer, then he is well within his rights.

Also there is a big market for people who see big numbers at a low price and get drawn in. Again its not his fault people are like this and its good business to capatilise on this market.

I dont want to defend him too much though, because in some parts of his business i think hes very suspect (clever wording to fool people into thinking Vista is installed, premium rate support number, sometimes lists cards falsely)

But i still feel its better value for money than you get in Pc world or currys etc.

[alex]

Nope, all fair points Bruce. But his business acumen leaves a lot to be desired. And hiding behind "its legal" doesn't make it morally correct.

And that's where my point lies.

I still believe he's actively trying to mislead people into thinking the p.c is capable of more, games wise, than it is.

And whether or not that's a correct assumption, it's still an assumption the seller has created through his ad.

Don't want to get into a tif over this, that is not my intention. I just think we're seeing this from different perspectives; you, the seller. Me, the buyer. And considering the initial post content from James I have to suggest the 'buyer' view is the one he should be looking at.