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  #1  
Old 19th Jul 2009, 23:28
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*need new computer for gaming
*min price = $5000 max = $6000
*atm playing wow, sim3, Empire total war
*Please look at following comp builds and let me know what you think


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PROC : Intel Core i7 975

MOTHERBOARD : Gigabyte EX58 Extreme

MEMORY : 6 x 2GB OCZ Intel-X 1600MHz Gaming RAM

POWER : Antec 1000W True Power Quattro

STORAGE : Intel X25 SSD 160GB (Operating System)

STORAGE : 2x Samsung Spinpoint 1TB 32MB Cache (RAID-0 Storage)

OPT DRIVE : LG DVD22X+- DUAL LAYER DVD Rewriter with
Software(GH22NP20)

GRAPHICS : 2 x Gigabyte nVidia GTX295 PCI-E 1792MB (SLI)

CASE : Antec 900 Gaming Chassis

OS : Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit


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PROC : - INTEL CORE i7 975 LGA1366

MOTHERBOARD - GIGABYTE GA-EX58 EXTREME Motherboard
Intel X58Express 3 Channel DDR3
3way CrossFire / SLi Support
Socket: LGA1366 -=[________]=-

MEMORY (x2) ADATA Triple DDR3 6GB (3x2GB) 1600+C8
CL-8-8-8-24 EXTREME EDITION
OverClocking

POWER : - Antec 1000watt QUATTRO True Power
Model: TPQ-1000

STORAGE - G.SKILL 128GB FALCON SSD 2.5inch SATA
Model: FM-25S2S-128GBF1

STORAGE - (x2) Samsung 1TB SATA-2 32meg Cache
7200RPM Model: HD103UJ

OPT DRIVE - LG 22x DVD SATA Burner BLACK OEM
Model: GH22NS30

GRAPHICS - (x2) GIGABYTE GTX295 1792MB DDR3 896Bit
PCI-E
Model: GV-N295-18I-B
CASE - Silverstone RAVEN Black ATX Case
NO POWER
Model: TO-SST-RV01B-W

OS - Windows VISTA ULTIMATE 64bit Version
DVD (OEM2432)
  #2  
Old 20th Jul 2009, 00:06
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are you serious

e: to be more constructive, every part on here is such a ludicrous waste of money that put together they're kind of mindboggling. please read this and save yourself over $2500.
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My System: 日夏子

Processor(s):
Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13 -> 3.01ghz
Motherboard:
MSI P6N SLI Platinum LGA 775
RAM Memory:
2GB Patriot Extreme Performance
Graphics Card(s):
PNY 8800GTS 320MB
Sound Card:
Sound Blaster Xtremegamer 7.1
Hard Drive(s):
80GB + 500GB
Optical Drive(s):
2x SATA
Case / PSU:
Antec 900 + 620W Aerocool zeroDBA
Cooling:
4x 120mm Yate-Loon + 200mm top
Network / Internet:
Qwest
Monitor(s):
Dell 22" S2209W (1920x1080)
Operating System(s):
Windows XP + 7
  #3  
Old 20th Jul 2009, 02:37
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yeah after reading ur guide there i see what you mean.
ok well i would like a computer that is of high resolution, unreal graphics and sounds if u r able to help me out i would appreciate it, must b a lil annoying tryin to understand some of this noob talk :p
thanks heaps
  #4  
Old 20th Jul 2009, 03:20
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What monitor do you have right now?
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"I loved the P182 so much that, when my wife's system was all noisy and needed all sorts of cleaning, I bought her one. Then, when I wanted a cat, I bought a P182. The P182 is not a cat per se, but it's still an excellent buy."
  #5  
Old 20th Jul 2009, 03:30
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i have a BenQ 19" monitor atm
  #6  
Old 20th Jul 2009, 03:59
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Spending lots of money on a computer and then using a 19" monitor isn't going to get you a lot of return: a $1000 build is going to run 1440x900 just as well as a $700 build. The monitor and graphics card are the most effective way to get more for your money. I would go with a build looking like this:

CPU: Phenom X3 720
Motherboard: GA-MA770T-UD3
RAM: 8GB DDR3-1066 (because DDR3 is relatively cheap now)
HDD: 1x OCZ Vertex SSD (OS + lots-of-seek programs and games), 2x 640GB WD Black (storage, other programs)
HSF: Xigmatek S-1283
Case: Coolermaster Cosmos 1000/Cosmos S/Antec P183
PSU: Corsair 620HX (or 1000HX but you'll never need the difference in power, the 620HX is already quite a bit of overkill)
GPU: Radeon 4890
Sound card: ASUS Xonar or HT Omega Striker
Monitor: 2x 1920x1200 of your choice

then a DVD writer, etc. I might also pick up some quality headphones like the AD700 or some good speakers (or both). This is a pretty high-end build but it should come in well under $5000, even in AUD.

Another option is to wait for i5/i7 on LGA-1156, Intel's new flagship CPU platform. I would do this if I could wait a little while because i5's Turbo Mode scaling is excellent and it looks to be a great platform. If you can wait a couple months this would be my option, but with that amount of money you could even probably buy this machine now and then that one later and still pocket quite a bit!

Anyway, it's your call. Either way you'll be running literally any game on the market at 60FPS at 1920x1200 for less than a third of those two machines with no actual performance decreases.
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"I loved the P182 so much that, when my wife's system was all noisy and needed all sorts of cleaning, I bought her one. Then, when I wanted a cat, I bought a P182. The P182 is not a cat per se, but it's still an excellent buy."
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Old 20th Jul 2009, 07:59
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Carbon why say 8GB ram?DDR3 is triple channel.
Why suggest a failed quad core(im referring to the X3)?
Still it is cheap I suppose.
And those cases,they all look great but the cooling is mediocre.
The 4890 has no hope of playing "any game on the market at 60FPS at 1920x1200".
Medium power PSU will seriously hamper attempts at future upgrades,like adding another 4890 for example.
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My System: Krlll

Processor(s):
Intel Q9550@4.33Ghz
Motherboard:
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P
RAM Memory:
4x2GB OCZ Platinum PC8500
Graphics Card(s):
Gainward 4870X2 (840 Core 940 Mem)
Sound Card:
Onboard HDA
Hard Drive(s):
A few lol 1650GB total
Optical Drive(s):
1xDVD PHILIPS DVD+-RW
Case / PSU:
Antec 1200/Enermax Infiniti 720W
Cooling:
Tuniq Tower 120
Network / Internet:
Dual Gigabit Ethernet
Monitor(s):
Acer 22" widescreen
Operating System(s):
Vista X64 Ultimate
  #8  
Old 20th Jul 2009, 08:24
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1. No, i7 is triple channel. DDR3 has no such attribute inherently, it is managed by the memory controller on the CPU.
2. Because "failed quad-core" is a useless marketing gimmick that means nothing. Every processor on the market is a failed something. A E8400 is a failed E8600. Binning is the entire foundation of the computer hardware industry.
3. "Cooling" is overrated. A Xigmatek S1283 will keep a modern processor at typically 30-40C, 20C below even when it starts to get warm. The P183 and Cosmos are recommended because they have actual features and are easy to build in, not a bunch of useless LED case fans.
4. The 4890 will run any game on the market as of right now at 60fps at 1920x1200. That's what it was designed to do. It is AMD's flagship product for the high end 1080p+ market and was created to compete with nVidia's GTX 275 when the GTX 280/285 were widely seen as extremely low price/perf. It may not run it with 8X CSAA etc on high VRAM games like Far Cry 2 but at 1920x1200 there is no real reason for more than 2X AA due to the fact that AA tends to offset jaggies created primarily by lower resolutions in the first place.
5. Even if Crossfire wasn't inherently a poor idea in any build, a 620HX could run a 2x 4890 setup. The 4890 uses less power than the 4870 and GTX 260, roughly 120W per on a PSU with a combined max rating of 600W on the 12V+ rails. I'm interested in hearing what system component in this build pulls over 300W/25A of current, seeing as how all other parts are only slightly more powerhungry than parts I recommend in systems with the 12V+ 30A 400CX.
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"I loved the P182 so much that, when my wife's system was all noisy and needed all sorts of cleaning, I bought her one. Then, when I wanted a cat, I bought a P182. The P182 is not a cat per se, but it's still an excellent buy."
  #9  
Old 20th Jul 2009, 10:47
Donor Group
 
Yeah, you tell 'em



The case itself has very little to do with cooling anyway, that's a weird argument, especially if you, say, mod in an extra fan hole.

The CPU cooler and efficiency of case fans is going to make a hell of a lot more difference than the case itself.
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My System: FordyPC

Processor(s):
Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.66@3.45GHz
Motherboard:
Asus P5Q/L PRO (Intel P43, ICH10)
RAM Memory:
PNY XLR8 4GB @ 1066MHz
Graphics Card(s):
PNY nVidia GeForce 9400 GT 512MB
Sound Card:
Hard Drive(s):
Seagate HDBarracuda 1x 1TB 1x 250GB
Optical Drive(s):
LG (HD)GGCH20L / LG GH22NP20AUAA50B
Case / PSU:
Antec Sonata III & Earthwatts 500W
Cooling:
Stock
Network / Internet:
Gigabit LAN, FireWire & WG111v2
Monitor(s):
2 x Acer P193WAd
Operating System(s):
XP PRO x86/XP PRO x64/Win7 RC1 x64
  #10  
Old 20th Jul 2009, 11:04
Donor Group
 
I think even a giant wooden box would have trouble keeping a X3 720 warm with a good HDT HSF...it's insane how low temps get on those. Even my friend's overclocked E8400 can sit at 35-40 load in his P182 SE.
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"I loved the P182 so much that, when my wife's system was all noisy and needed all sorts of cleaning, I bought her one. Then, when I wanted a cat, I bought a P182. The P182 is not a cat per se, but it's still an excellent buy."
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