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Old 18th May 2009, 12:35
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Hey guys, I'm thinking of replacing my junk Celeron 2.8GHz skt478, 1.2GB ram and 7600GT also a crap 40GB HDD. I have 3 PC's that i could build for under 200 quid.

1st up is: AMD Athlon LE-1640 2.70GHz/65nm version (retail)
Corsair 2GB 667 Ram
HD 4350 512mb PCI-E
Hitachi Deskstar 160GB Sata II 7200rpm/8mb cache
Silentload 400W PSU (i don't care its cheap i just want a quiet PSU that powers my PC !)
Asus TA 881 case
Asrock N68-S AM2+
Samsung 22X DVD-RW Sata
That will be running Vista Home premium...
Comes to about £182 in aria.co.uk

2nd: AMD Athlon X2 5200+ (Retail)
Patriot 1GB 667 Ram
8400GS or HD 3450 256MB
Hitachi 80GB Sata II 7200rpm/2mb Cache
Silentload 400W PSU
Asus TA 881 case
Asrock N68-S AM2+
Samsung 22X DVD-RW Sata
This will be running XP pro
Comes to about £202 in aria.co.uk again

3rd: Intel Celeron 430 1.8GHz (Retail/ HUGE headroom for overclock as it only uses 35W)
Corsair 2GB 667 Ram
HD 4350 512mb PCI-E
Hitachi Deskstar 160GB Sata II 7200rpm/8mb cache
Silentload 400W PSU
Asus TA 881 case
Asrock G31M-S
Samsung 22X DVD-RW Sata
That will be running Vista Home premium aswell
this PC comes to about £185 in aria.co.uk


5 questions:
1. Would I see a big difference against my current 7600GT PC build ?
2. Which one is better for gaming ?
3. Could I run supreme commander or Crysis on either of those PC's ?
4. Is cache on the HDD actually that important ?
5. Should I still use XP or Vista for games ?

You see, I have to cut down on a lot of stuff on my 2nd PC to fit the 5200+ and My current celeron 2.8GHz sucks cos' it has a little 128kb L2 cache, even at 2.8GHz it cant run supreme commander that only requires 1.8GHz P4 ... and my 40GB HDD is soo limiting... All i want to play is supreme commander, crysis and battle for the middle earth 2 with no lagg ...

And a little info here, the AMD LE-1640 is better than the a AMD Athlon 64 4000+ (Single Core/ which is better than the Pentium D (2x Penitum 4 )) and its very energy efficent using 45W's... and the Celeron 430 if it was in a clock to clock against the AMD LE-1640 its abit better ...

So guys please help me out here ...
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Old 18th May 2009, 12:41
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Number 1 I'd say.

Definatly go for an AMD if you're building a budget PC.

But that's only £182 you say, and if you're prepared to spend around £200 spend the difference on a better PSU.

£20 will get a vast improvement in PSU-land. And you don't ant everything to get fried because you compromised on a crappy PSU.
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Old 18th May 2009, 13:12
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Well the 400W PSU was about 13 quid. I'll see if theres any good ones and round up to about £200. Also I want to be able to watch youtube in HD, I can't on my current crapped up celeron, my CPU is too crappy to decode H.264... So would they be able to do so ?
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Old 18th May 2009, 13:44
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...are you seriously asking whether a single core processor is a good buy for anything in 2009?

No, none of those will be any good for anything other than being HTPCs, and those PSUs will probably blow up rendering them pretty poor for that as well. Throwing this amount of money at these kind of builds is throwing your money away if you want a "gaming PC". The 4350 is not a gaming card. Save your money.
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Old 18th May 2009, 14:12
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Didn't read the last bi properly, didn't realise you wanted to game

No sorry, on that budget its not even worth trying.
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