[banjo7]

Hi,

Im going to build a Powerful Gaming Rig.

I have about £1000 budget and i have about £800 towards a CPU Mobo Ram,GPU and Sound Card.

Need advice on them

cheers,

[Cew27]

you seem like your in the same boat as me
i am getting/already have
intel q6600 core 2 quad that i will overclock - 160
evga/xfx 780i sli motherboard (so you can have sli or tri sli if you wish) - 200
any goord ram about 200 for 4 gig
nvidea goeforce gtx 768mb graphics card - 300
total = 850

[alex]

Only get a GTX if gaming at 1920x1200. If less the 8800GT will sort you out nicely. Also a lot cheaper, as in nearly half the price and can game at 1920x1200 just not as well as the GTX but you can always just turn a few detail settings down or turn off AA for those extra few fps.

I'll go nosey for a spec for you now.

I agree with Cewy on the Quad but you won't see the benefit in games just yet as not many are coded to use a quad.

If you want out and out cpu performance now then it has to be a dual, and it has to be the e6850.

Both it and the quad are priced closely, with the e6850 being about £20 more.

[Cew27]

so the quad will be come more usefull later on ??

[alex]

Yup. Not many (I know of 3, but there might be a few more) are yet.

But they will be, guaranteed.

It took around 2 years for games developers to make use of duals, it's only really taken off in a big way since conroe was released. Now cpu manufacturer's aren't waging the "mhz war" anymore but are now going for more efficient architecture and more cpu's on a single die those same developers don't really have a choice as they're wanting to expand the gaming experience. What do you think drives gpu improvements?

[Cew27]

"What do you think drives gpu improvements?"


mexicans??

[alex]

Was that sarcasm Cewy?

[Cew27]

no lol it was a random comment outlining the fact that many foerign countries are becoming more industrial due to the workers accepting a lower wage

^^ that wasnt an insult either ... just some of my dry humor

[banjo7]

Alex maybe you could answer me a question with me being a Idiot.

Take Crysis for example
Its Minimum Requirements are 2.8Ghz and the Core 2 Duo will do that nicely with its 2x3.0Ghz But (heres me being a noob)Would the Quad run it as it is 4x 2.4Ghz?


Cheers,

[alex]

Originally Posted by banjo7 Alex maybe you could answer me a question with me being a Idiot. Take Crysis for example Its Minimum Requirements are 2.8Ghz and the Core 2 Duo will do that nicely with its 2x3.0Ghz But (heres me being a noob)Would the Quad run it as it is 4x 2.4Ghz? Cheers,

Hi Banjo. Just because you don't know something doesn't make you an idiot, you just don't know.

The min specs are based upon a P4 2.8ghz. An E6300 (1.83ghz) has more gaming prowess than this cpu due to its better all round architecture; it's got, i believe, 4 less pipeline stages resident.

Game developers give the minimum specs based upon the absolute minimum needed to boot the game without it crashing, thereby artificially increasing the market of sales. It's immoral but legal as it doesn't take into account frame rates, aa, or detail settings.

The resolution of your monitor plays heavily in how well any games runs. The larger screen the monitor has the more pixels. The more pixels the harder the gpu (and less so, the cpu) has to work.

[banjo7]

Ok so the Quad would run say when games need 3.4 Ghz Fine?

[alex]

Yup. But it's not solely dependent on the cpu.

The majority of games rely more on the graphics card than the cpu (although the cpu is a factor).

But a gaming build is taken from the monitors resolution. I need to know that before I can spec you a build.

[Logic Bomb]

Speaking through experience, Intel's Xeon processor(s) range are very adept at handling/running through demanding apps. They're not often used in Desktop machines but it's quite possible to rig up with one on a suitable board. Oftentimes you'll see them in workstation machines as they're very good for extremely demanding tasks e.g. editing analogous video data etc... (Obviously emphasizing their power.)

Though, as Alex has already pointed out, the Graphics card in your machine will tend to hold the greater weighting when it comes to performance with games. Though I would advise you have a look at the Xeon CPU's on the market atm.

I really don't know all that much about the gaming scene but I would definitely take into consideration the Xeon chips available.

If anyone else knows otherwise though, I'll stand corrected quite happily.