[Ozzie82]

wow how the heck lol, indeed very little difference there Desertfish ,all lo them temps arnt mad high ,are you happy with them temps cos am not happy with mines, but if you think that it is the mobo causing the temp difference i would agree with that as i seen a difference straight away after changing to a new board.

I also got the chance to blow out my old heatsink and fan with compressed air but did not make a difference.

Do you think that certain boards are made slighty differnent in that the handle temps ? mines was only £44 which is a basic board . I know its not the heatsink or fan or even the cpu is at fault and also not the thermal paste.

you are right ,it must be the motherboards,but what is in them or not in them that gives higher temps than others.

I was reading up there this past while and came accross this post from a guy showing his temps on a Q6600 it was running 20c idle and 27c throttled. How he got sucha good low temp idk.

You said that you are using some added cooling extras but you said had very little effect. maybe same would happen here too:(

my next idea is to buy an ATX case and fit my mATX board into it cos i done that few yrs back and it gave much better temp setup overall and fit a few cooling extras to it.

Am going to run a proper test on all cpu speeds today sometime and al post it here

Thanks for posting your results ,it has made clear a few ? over some things. I hope you get to a level you are happy with too

Kind Regards..

[Desertfish]

Shortly before buying my P5N-E board a few months back, I read some reviews of people who had this board for a while. Apparently, Asus had shipped that particular motherboard with a simple aluminium heatsink on the norhtbridge chip while there was nothing on the southbridge. The general advice I was reading on ebuyer was to add a heatsink to the southbridge ship and replace the one on the northbridge with a copper one.

By the time I got my motherboard, Asus had already shipped those boards with a passibe heatsink on the southbridge. However, I removed both chipset heatsinks and replaced both with a Noctua NC-U6 chipset cooler like the one in the tumbnail pic.

I never ran my old motherboard with the standard heatsinks, and since I'm still facing of having to return my new P5K board, I have't removed the heatsinks from that one to replace them with the Noctua's. So I can't tell for sure how much decrease in temperatures you'll be getting by replacing the stock chipset coolers. However, from what I have read, and the little experience I have on the subject, I would say that the most important factors in heat are north- and southbridge chips.

Cheers:
Chris.

[Ozzie82]

Originally Posted by Desertfish

Shortly before buying my P5N-E board a few months back, I read some reviews of people who had this board for a while. Apparently, Asus had shipped that particular motherboard with a simple aluminium heatsink on the norhtbridge chip while there was nothing on the southbridge. The general advice I was reading on ebuyer was to add a heatsink to the southbridge ship and replace the one on the northbridge with a copper one.

By the time I got my motherboard, Asus had already shipped those boards with a passibe heatsink on the southbridge. However, I removed both chipset heatsinks and replaced both with a Noctua NC-U6 chipset cooler like the one in the tumbnail pic.

I never ran my old motherboard with the standard heatsinks, and since I'm still facing of having to return my new P5K board, I have't removed the heatsinks from that one to replace them with the Noctua's. So I can't tell for sure how much decrease in temperatures you'll be getting by replacing the stock chipset coolers. However, from what I have read, and the little experience I have on the subject, I would say that the most important factors in heat are north- and southbridge chips.

Cheers:
Chris.

I never even thought about north&south bridge to be honest, you think that is the possible cause of temp difference on different boards? I will check mines to see what kinda setup they have installed, lo am guessing it will be very basic indeed.

I was going to post some temps but today is a cooler day and am seeing some difference in them overall but they are still tad higher and maybe you hit the nail on the head with the north&south bridge. Just hope mines arnt intergrated together .

So you are going to send your mobo back ? i would have thought any asus would be very good as this is going to be my next board and prolly would have ended up with the one yo have atm

Maybe the sensors arnt upto much on both ours ,cos i did notice in bios soon as i started up ,cpu temp was 35c but within minutes it shot upto 42c again which never happened before on old board.

Maybe also it wlll take so many cycles to break in the thermal paste.

I wouldnt just send the board back yet desertfish as also it could be the weather and that the room temp has increased somewhat and maybe we picked bad time of yr to be gauging temps hehe as summer months always produced higher than normal temps on any computer unless its surrounded by extreme cooling.

regards and good wkend to you

Graeme

[thingie2]

Yea, both North and Southbridge chipsets will contribute to the overall system temps. For newer boards, if there isn't a heatsink on one, get one. If there is an aluminium one, get a copper one, if there is a copper one, you will probably be allright. older boards though probably don't need a southbridge heatsink, my board doesn;t have one, but it is several years old, and it only has a small copper (atleast it looks copper) passive northbridge heatsink. but it probably also helps that I have air conditioning so my room barely ever gets about about 23C whilst I'm in it.

[Ozzie82]

Originally Posted by thingie2

Yea, both North and Southbridge chipsets will contribute to the overall system temps. For newer boards, if there isn't a heatsink on one, get one. If there is an aluminium one, get a copper one, if there is a copper one, you will probably be allright. older boards though probably don't need a southbridge heatsink, my board doesn;t have one, but it is several years old, and it only has a small copper (atleast it looks copper) passive northbridge heatsink. but it probably also helps that I have air conditioning so my room barely ever gets about about 23C whilst I'm in it.

Hi thingie

That chipset cooler on my old gigabyte board looked copper and i took it off yesterday and give it a flick and it sounded not very copper to me hehe prolly just coated with some kinda paint .

Would a proper copper chipset cooler really have a good effect? i may just get one and try it out lo i have some fears about installing such an item as i couldnt get the one of my
old board without tearing it from the board

I pushed down on it and tried to get the feet through the hole but they wasnt for going through. Is there any set way to do that or a handy way of getting it through so it will just slip out

I have never tried to do such a task . You are lucky to have AC i have normal fan but might aswell be turned off

Regards

[SocialWarfare]

Just another thought, is your bios up to date, as for the heatsink this heatsink that, there should be no need for any of that if the CPU is running at stock nevermind underclocked!!

[Desertfish]

It's a well known fact that copper dissapates heat a lot better than aluminium does, hence copper coolers/heatsinks will always be a tad more expensive than aluminium ones.

As for the chipset coolers, to make thm compatible with all motherboards, they usually come with fittings that can be adjusted in order to line them up with hoes in your motherboard. As I mentioned before; if you go trough the trouble to replacing the stock heatsink, you might as well stick some thernal paste on there as well. To use the words of Tesco: Every little helps...

Cheers:
Chris

PS Ozzie: As for me chaging my motherboard, that's for totally different reasons that just the increased temps.

[SocialWarfare]

Or course its well known but its not always needed! Especially when nothing has even been overclocked!

How many PC's are sold every year that don't have aftermarket cooling! Or need it.

Anyway I would check if your bios is up to date and if not RMA the board or if you can take it back to the shop you got it from and give out stink!

[Ozzie82]

Originally Posted by SocialWarfare

Just another thought, is your bios up to date, as for the heatsink this heatsink that, there should be no need for any of that if the CPU is running at stock nevermind underclocked!!

Yep , just updated it there other day made no much changes to it bar a few extras settings

When i did underclcok it there to 1200MHz the temps wasnt much different from when the cpu is at 2400MHz which i thought was odd,but i read most newer processors run much hotter and within a certain range at standard speeds and cooling 35c > 60c is a good range to be in ?

I have went trough the bios many a time and think its set to what it should be. AIs there anyway to take a screen shot of the bios? would prtscrn work i wonder

regards

[Ozzie82]

Originally Posted by Desertfish

It's a well known fact that copper dissapates heat a lot better than aluminium does, hence copper coolers/heatsinks will always be a tad more expensive than aluminium ones.

As for the chipset coolers, to make thm compatible with all motherboards, they usually come with fittings that can be adjusted in order to line them up with hoes in your motherboard. As I mentioned before; if you go trough the trouble to replacing the stock heatsink, you might as well stick some thernal paste on there as well. To use the words of Tesco: Every little helps...

Cheers:
Chris

PS Ozzie: As for me changing my motherboard, that's for totally different reasons that just the increased temps.

Yeah thats true, also maybe so more fans in there blowing out the hot air in the case as i dont have an exhaust fan on back which i thought also was abit strange of them not to include.

Will buy a new case big ATX one and fit thi sboard in with some added cooling and maybe things might come good.

The temps arnt boiling over anyways ,if they were hitting 70c i would be really worried


I thought you was taking board back cos of high temp issue hehe sry dude

@ Tescos comment

regards