[cheesepuff]

When i said specific, it also means hard to find. When you read what the spcs are, please dont question why i am looking for them. the reason for them us quite simple. install games fast. and burn my home videos that i make fast.

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Drive 1-

Reccomended interface - SATA (IDE is acceptable)
Type - DVD ROM / CD ROM
Speed (Read)- DVD read 20x / CD read 56x
Speed (Write)- There is no write
Access time - Both DVD and CD 100ms or less
Color - black (if it doesnt come in that color and its a good drive then thats fine)
Price- what ever it takes

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Drive 2-

Reccomended inteface - SATA (IDE is acceptable)
Type - DVD-RW / CD-RW
Speed (Read)- Does not matter
Speed (Write)- DVD write 18x / CD write 52x
Access time - Does not matter
Color - black ((if it doesnt come in that color and its a good drive then thats fine)
Price- what ever it takes
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If ANYONE knows where i can find these drives, i beg of you to let me know. They do exist, but are VERY hard to find. I would offer a reward if someone did find them but i dont think i have the right to offer so on this site. Any help in the tracking down of these drives would be more than greatly appreciated.

[Dave Hybrid]

Had a good look, no dice, sorry.

You can get close to those speeds and to be honest is 48x really that much slower than 52x.

[cheesepuff]

i used to have a 56x CD ROM drive. it was blazing fast. sadly it became incompatible with me newer builds. sold it. but i do know they make the ROM drive i listed up there. i just cant find it (dont remember where i saw it *cry*) as for the burning drive, it a lot to ask for in 1 drive but i dont see why they wouldnt make one.

[thingie2]

The fastest RW I can find is 20xDVD, 48x CD.

The fastest reader I could see if 16xDVD, 48xCD with 105ms access.

I'll have a better look later

[Carbon]

I found some 52x ones on NewEgg, both read and write, but that's all I could find.

There's probably some crazy SCSI ones with insane read/write speeds somewhere.

[cheesepuff]

i can guarentee newegg wont have it. and i dont think it will be on any of the normal sites like newegg and stuff.

[serverguy]

I really don't understand why you want such fast CD speeds.

I thought most games came on DVD now, which inherently reads much faster. It also stores more.

If some games still do come on CD, then they won't have that much to transfer across. They will also have installers that will only work so fast, and will be the bottleneck. I absolutely guarantee that a 56x drive will be no faster at installing games than a 48x one. Period.

There are reasons for it as well:

• The speed the CD gets read at depends on how fast the drive spins. At 1x the drive spins at about 500RPM. At 8x its up to about 4000RPM. And so on. However, the read speed on the disk depends on where the laser is on the disk, how close it is to the centre. The further out, the further the distance around, and the faster the read speed (ignoring CLV). The common speed for 52x is about 10,350RPM, which is adjusted as needed. This is only at the outside of the disk though, the centre is a lot less. Higher then this the speed has to be upped more, and it only affects the outer parts of the disk. After about 15,000RPM read performance gets dodgey, especially with the older motors on old drives.
• So my point from all lot is that 56X is only going to be achieved on such a small bit of disk, that it ain't worth worrying about.
• You mention your old 56x drive has become incompatible. How old is it?! It has to be IDE, and I pulled a IDE drive from a year 2000 computer yesterday, and it still worked fine. Also, three or four years back, 30x - 40x speeds were the norm. The fastest drives did 52x.

So, I do no think that you need a 56x drive, and I highly doubt you ever had one that did 56x and has become incompatible. And, you would only get 56x for so little of the disk, or it would self explode for the rate it is turning at.

Oh, and did I mention that older drives didn't have ball bearing drives until Samsung introduced the SCR-3230, which allowed 32x speeds. That was abotu 2000 time I think, before that 20x was the max before too much data got skipped from bumping about too much. That used IDE and would stil work with modern hardware.

DVDs are completely different animals. 22x theoretical is easily available.

What about one of these?
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...tml?SAM-S223FR


Oh and you can actually get 56x CD only drives today, but that 56x would only be on the outside of the disk, and they are virtually impossible to find and probably no longer stocked.

http://www.pcworld.com/shopping/deta...ler/specs.html

[serverguy]

I meant to say in my original post, but I can explain why you won't be able to get any 56x CD, 20x DVD drives in one as well. Due to speeds and reading technology.

CD drives have been adapted to work in DVD drives, and there has been little CD technology evolution since DVD / Blue Ray / HD-DVD.

Edit: 52x CD Write is findable, in fact I have one, but it is not DVD as well. Just CD.

[cheesepuff]

The reason i want the drives i listed for the ROM stuff was more for the access time than the read time. there is a 72x CD drive out there but you dont see me chasing after that. (it was fast access but super slow read rate) I am very awaire i wont get those speeds at a sustained rate. and my old 56x didnt work when it was put in with a dvd drive. its was an old one, very old but was faster than any other cd drive i seen. CD are not 100% uneeded for. hell, even floppy drive are need for many people qute often. like when installing windows XP on a SATA drive. i still use them from time to time. CD's as well.


OK, seeing as these drive are near impossible to find. how about this. i need the fastest DVD/CD reading drive that can be found and the fasted CD/DVD/DVD DL drive that can be found.

[serverguy]

Originally Posted by cheesepuff The reason i want the drives i listed for the ROM stuff was more for the access time than the read time. there is a 72x CD drive out there but you dont see me chasing after that. (it was fast access but super slow read rate) I am very awaire i wont get those speeds at a sustained rate. and my old 56x didnt work when it was put in with a dvd drive. its was an old one, very old but was faster than any other cd drive i seen. CD are not 100% uneeded for. hell, even floppy drive are need for many people qute often. like when installing windows XP on a SATA drive. i still use them from time to time. CD's as well. OK, seeing as these drive are near impossible to find. how about this. i need the fastest DVD/CD reading drive that can be found and the fasted CD/DVD/DVD DL drive that can be found.

Cheesepuff, the thing is they are all much of the same. There is no such thing as the fastest of the fastest, because they all use basically the same technology.

I still don't understand how your very old drive was so fast, as drive technology has moved on quite a bit in the past few years. Especially with the speed at which the head can move at.

You don't need a floppy to install Windows with SATA either, as Windows supports it out of the box now. Even when it didn't, there were still easy ways around it. I don't think I have ever needed one except for when setting up a RAID once. Haven't built a PC with one for donkeys years.

my old 56x didnt work when it was put in with a dvd drive

I don't understand what you mean by this?

I also don't understand what you mean about read and access times? They are both the same, a multiplier of 15KB/sec. If you mean seek times, I don't even think that information is available. They vary so much with the condition of the CD as well.

[cheesepuff]

what i mean by "put with a DVD drive" is that when i use it on the same IDE cable with another drive that could burn DVDs, it would for some reason not let the DVD burner identify that there was a dvd-R inside it. I dont know why it heppened, but when the 56x drive was replaced the dvd burner worked fine. and when it came to installing XP on a SATA HDD, i always had to use a floppy to install some BS drivers. my old drive was IDE. i benchhmarked it againest my other drives for CD. to put it simply, Windows media player would rip songs off and entire CD in about 1-2 minutes give or take. all my other drives took about 3-5. give or take. instlling games like Call of Duty 2 (which uses CD's) took 5 min less than my other drives. the only real con about the drive what that it was a bit loud. But for the time being, let go about the situation like this. what 2 drives would you reccomend? The basic config i want is one drive that reads fast, and another that burns fast.